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Smoking Ban Faces Little Protest (???) Boston
Yahoo News ^ | 16 October 2002

Posted on 10/16/2002 12:05:46 PM PDT by SheLion

A proposal to ban smoking in all workplaces in Boston has not met with much controversy.

NewsCenter 5's Kelley Tuthill reported
that since Mayor Thomas Menino proposed the ban three weeks ago, there has not been much of a response, according to city officials. The ordinance would make all workplaces smoke free, including restaurants, bars and clubs.

The ordinance will be voted on by the Public Health Commission.

"We haven't received as much input as we expected we would," commission member John Auerbach said. "We received a number of letters -- scores of letters -- and the letters are running about 10-to-1 in favor of the regulation."

Currently in Boston, smoking is relegated to certain sections of restaurants and allowed in bars in clubs.

"We are part of a trend of cities that are going smoke free," Auerbach said. "All the large cities in California are currently smoke free in all workplaces. New York City is debating virtually an identical regulation to ours."

Some Boston bars are starting a petition drive against the ordinance, but at Whiskey's on Boylston Street,
managers said that they have no problem going smoke free, as long as their competitors have to.

"It'll hurt business originally, but then people will get used to the non-smoking thing, and business will pick up as usual," manager Austin Eichelberger said.

Cigar Masters owner Steve Saloman said that he is worried that his cigar bar would go out of business if the ordinance is approved. He spent $300,000 moving his 6-year-old cigar bar to Boylston Street.

"We feel that we fall in a gray area," Saloman said. "Everybody who comes in here is here to smoke, so they're not offending anybody."

The commission said there may be an exemption that would allow Cigar Masters to stay open. A public hearing is set for Wednesday night from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. at Roxbury Community College. The commission could vote as early as Nov. 6.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Government; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: antismokers; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; michaeldobbs; niconazis; prohibitionists; pufflist; smokingbans; taxes; tobacco
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"It'll hurt business originally, but then people will get used to the non-smoking thing.

Is he so sure about this? I am not.

1 posted on 10/16/2002 12:05:46 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: *puff_list; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; maxwell; ...
Actually, I haven't heard much about this until now. No wonder they haven't had much opposition! They have kept this pretty much under wraps.
2 posted on 10/16/2002 12:07:02 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Of course he's right. Boston, my home town, used to be a city where a tough independent people lived. Now the only place left with any balls is Southy.

Most of the people in town are from someplace else these days and yuppified beyond belief. Sheep, sheep, sheep and sheep are meant to be sheared.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall the first time a Boston Smoke Enforcer trys to tell the Boyos at an Irish bar in Southy to put out the butts. It will be a massacre that will make the fight at the now defunct Rabbit Inn look like a picnic and rightfully so.

3 posted on 10/16/2002 12:16:09 PM PDT by metesky
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I'd like to be a fly on the wall the first time a Boston Smoke Enforcer trys to tell the Boyos at an Irish bar in Southy to put out the butts. It will be a massacre that will make the fight at the now defunct Rabbit Inn look like a picnic and rightfully so.

You and me both! What a pity. Boston of all places. The prissy arsed stouts making laws that everyone have to follow. I bet they are pigs in their own homes. I'd hate to see how they live when the public eye isn't on THEM!

4 posted on 10/16/2002 12:25:18 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
YEs unfortunately, he's right, ithink.

Plus we have the city of cambridge which surprisingly shows no desire to stop smoking in bars and nightclubs.
5 posted on 10/16/2002 12:53:11 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: SheLion
im sure about it, i tend to give MORE money and spend more time in resteraunts and businesses when im not surrounded by a cancerous cloud. less and less people smoke these days anyway, and even the avid smoker says he should quit. everyone knows its wrong to stuff a rolled up tube of chemicals in your mouth, light it, then inhale... which is why they dont mind when others dont want to breathe smoke(or like in my case, CANT breathe it) when they arent smokers. its also a good sign that in the area, the people being affected are praising it, that means businesses wont have much of an issue with it NOW just from losing the smokers. on top of that, the non-smokers will like the area more, and come more often, and smokers can still breathe non-smoky air like the rest of us, until they "need" to duck out and (oh God, no!) walk a half a block!
6 posted on 10/16/2002 12:54:38 PM PDT by MacDorcha
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Plus we have the city of cambridge which surprisingly shows no desire to stop smoking in bars and nightclubs.

And that's where the business will go: Cambridge. For sure.

7 posted on 10/16/2002 1:00:33 PM PDT by SheLion
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im sure about it, i tend to give MORE money and spend more time in resteraunts and businesses when im not surrounded by a cancerous cloud.

It shouldn’t be up to you. It should be left up to the restaurant and/or bar owner. Not Big Government!

less and less people smoke these days anyway, and even the avid smoker says he should quit.

55 million of us still enjoy smoking a legal commodity.

everyone knows its wrong to stuff a rolled up tube of chemicals in your mouth, light it, then inhale... which is why they dont mind when others dont want to breathe smoke(or like in my case, CANT breathe it)

You poor baby. I am sorry you are so sickly.

its also a good sign that in the area, the people being affected are praising it, that means businesses wont have much of an issue with it NOW just from losing the smokerson top of that, the non-smokers will like the area more,

Oh! I am SURE all you anti-smokers will pay more money to take up the slack from the missing customers. Heh!

You sure your on the right board, Sir? This is Free Republic!

8 posted on 10/16/2002 1:06:25 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
I do now anyway. Boston sucks for live music these days in a club environment.

Lilli's, SkyBar, The Lizard Lounge, Toad's, Alley Club, MidEast Cafe are all in Cambridge.

Only decent Boston livemusic place left is the Paradise.
9 posted on 10/16/2002 1:08:15 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: MacDorcha
Bartenders think nonsmokers are a chintzy cheap lot anyway.
10 posted on 10/16/2002 1:08:54 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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Only decent Boston livemusic place left is the Paradise.

What happened? Did they all move out of the City??

11 posted on 10/16/2002 1:09:43 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Started drying up when the drinking age went to 21.

Gentrification. Neighbours complaints.

Sorry forgot about Wally's. Still a great place.

But i'd like to see them tell a Southie to stop.

Wonder if JJFoley's will go nonsmoking.
12 posted on 10/16/2002 1:10:58 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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Bartenders think nonsmokers are a chintzy cheap lot anyway.

It's true! I have heard this all my life. Not just lately. Smokers tend to be more fun, for some reason and don't mind spending the money with a night on the town.

My one girl friend never smokes, unless we are out drinking. Then she buys a pack. Next day! No smoke. She is something else. :)

13 posted on 10/16/2002 1:12:04 PM PDT by SheLion
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Wonder if JJFoley's will go nonsmoking.

The whole CITY will have to go non smoking! All the bars AND the restaurants if the Health Commissioner gets his way. ack! Talk about ruining a good thing!

14 posted on 10/16/2002 1:13:22 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: MacDorcha
You're definitely in the running for posting the most incoherent, babbling, run-on whine ever to appear on Free Republic.

I think what you're trying to say is that you can't spell, are ignorant of grammar, can't put together an argument, are a weakling and, from the evidence, drunk.

Is that about it?

15 posted on 10/16/2002 1:23:52 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: swarthyguy
LOL! J.J. Foley's is a walk in the park compared to some of the real Irish bars in Southy.

That's interesting about Cambridge though. You'd think they'd be the first place to go PC.

Is the old Plough and Stars still open on Mass. Ave? That used to be a big IRA bar for a while. Can't see no smoking with that crowd!
:O)

16 posted on 10/16/2002 1:26:50 PM PDT by metesky
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I think what you're trying to say is that you can't spell, are ignorant of grammar, can't put together an argument, are a weakling and, from the evidence, drunk.

I saw that! But didn't want to hurt him further. He is so sickly, you know. heh!

How are you Madame Dufarge??

17 posted on 10/16/2002 1:27:34 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
I'm just fine, SheLion; how about you, kid?

Amazing how many powder puffs are around here, huh?

18 posted on 10/16/2002 1:32:40 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: metesky
Plough is still open with live music. I know, how do they ever squeeze in there.

One Foleys behind Washington St had a bartender- great guy - rogue with a brogue until we saw his foto in the paper saying he'd been deported. Used to make us drinks that were like Rum with a splash of cola!

I'll stick to Cambridge, thanks, even though Southie has a lot of new arrivals who were paying over 500K for a triple decker.
19 posted on 10/16/2002 1:40:37 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: SheLion
managers said that they have no problem going smoke free, as long as their competitors have to.

Further proof the restuarant owners are willing accomplices. Within a few years all restaurants will be nonsmoking and will be a distant memory.

We flew recently and my kids wanted to know what the ash trays were in the seats.

20 posted on 10/16/2002 1:40:55 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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